Joe Vasile is the voice of the Fayetteville (NC) SwampDogs. r/NewYorkMets: Home of the New York Mets on reddit. New York Mets' star third baseman David Wright has recently signed an eight-year, $138 million extension to stay in New York through 2020. After missing more than two years due to neck and shoulder problems, New York Mets third baseman David Wright announced his retirement from Major League Baseball on Thursday. Press J to jump to the feed. ... For what it's worth here are the 3rd basemen currently in the hall of fame (fewest of any position) Third Basemen. So no. 31.8k. Sinc e a player of his caliber is clearly Hall of Fame Worthy according to a committee then they should put several different players who were better than Baines in. Bottom line is I hope whoever votes on these things sets the bar way higher this time. ... Home of the New York Mets on reddit. The Virginia Sports Hall of Fame has postponed its 2020 induction weekend. I’ll never forget David Wright, and baseball won’t either, Hall of Fame or not. Here are some HOF 3b what their OPS+ is compared to their first 7000 or so PA. Wade Boggs: 146 in 6725 PA, finished at 131, George Brett 143 in 6950 PA, finished at 135. Nolan Arenado. Meanwhile, Jay Jaffe of Sports Illustrated gives Wright 45.1 in his Hall of Fame metric JAWS, with 55 JAWS the standard for enshrined third basemen. I would love to see a reference to his "Captain America" in the hall, He didn't play long enough because he was hurt. I love Wright not a HOF but his #5 should be retired. When I saw him playing tonight I thought of how much pain he must have been in. The Mets just got like 10 Hall of Fame caliber players according to this committee. If mattingly isn’t getting in then how would wright get in? Ron Santo 130 in 7186 PA, finished at 125. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. Almost yearly, people look to point out the absurdity. But the bat played at a Hall of Fame pace without a doubt, and his dominance (three straight 60 HR seasons) is worthy of a bust in Cooperstown. I feel like that’s reserved for guys who were just pretty good for a really long time, whereas Wright was almost the exact opposite. Robin Ventura. Henie Groh. Wright was on his way to what seemed like a cinch Hall of Fame career before the back injury. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. Saying mattingly is more deserving is not accurate without any evidence. 5, but I don't know if he's a HOFer. Josh Donaldson. Wright … I gotta hear how a guy who has less career HR's than Aramis Ramirez, a lower batting average than guys like Jim Eisenreich and Mark Loretta, and a lower OPS+ (a pretty important statistic for a DH) than Hal McRae and Travis Hafner can get elected to the HoF and have a plaque next to legends like Willie Mays and Lou Gehrig. A committee of 16 members decides to review a select group of baseball players and execs that had fallen off the ballot from a certain era. I don’t think so, nor do I think it matters. TAMPA — David Wright played on a Hall of Fame track, baseball player and fan Brett Gardner noted Friday, before injuries derailed him. He won’t make the Hall of Fame, but calling him Hall of very good undersells him imo. His 133 OPS+ is great but its not even 7000 PA. Alot of 3B would have higher OPS+ if their PA were limited to 7000 and not the extra years they played adding to their counting stats and reducing their rate stats. It doesn't matter how he got in, Baines's career numbers are not those of a Hall of Famer, period. He just didn't do it long enough. Either way, Mr. Met will always be beloved in New York. Actually, you can make a case that Daryl Hamilton's numbers are more worthy of the Hall here. No.... sadly not. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the NewYorkMets community, Press J to jump to the feed. Though he deserves to have his number retired in the Mets organization. Luis Castillo is my favorite Met of all time and it’s not even close. David Wright’s Hall of Fame career has been derailed by injury. Richard Montgomery High School Athletics Hall of Fame will induct its thrid class this Fall, 2017. I understand completely. He was a surefire All-Star, borderline MVP player in his prime. save hide report. Yeah that's what I thought his issue was too. Wright may be among those who put themselves on a Hall path, but do not have sustainability. In addition, Wright’s 50.1 WAR with the Mets is the second most any player has accumulated with the Mets; the most accumulated by any Mets position player. He's kinda like what Don Mattingly was to the Yankees with the injuries and his teams never getting over the hump. David Wright. How much hard work he’s put in over two years to come out for just one last time. Had he received just three more votes, he could have stayed on the ballot one more year, and we could have seen what, if any, momentum could have been made towards getting him inducted into the Hall of Fame. The 2020 Hall of Fame class includes Dennis Carter, Mike Cubbage, Lawrence Johnson, Bruce Rader, Tracy Saunders, Al See bottom of page link to "Players Wing" for an alphabetical listing of the MLB players enshrined in the WFBL Hall of Fame. If we like compilers now may as well throw I Kranepool. I feel like that’s reserved for guys who were just pretty good for a really long time, whereas Wright was almost the exact opposite. You can tell that throughout his entire career with the Mets, from his hot start to the intense struggle to even return to the diamond tonight, he’s only had the interest of the franchise and the fans at heart. SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- David Wright was a former supplemental first-round pick coming off two solid if unspectacular full pro seasons when he arrived in the Arizona Fall League in 2003. John McGraw. I completely agree that Baines should not be in, and I also think that the veterans committee (or today's game whatever its called) is DW's best route, but, in that vein, I don't think Baines really helps Wright's case. 203. Established in 2012, the mission of the Richard Montgomery School Athletics Hall of Fame is to promote the achievements of those exemplary student-athletes, coaches, administrators, and contributors to the athletic program. So when you have a guy like say, Ozzie Smith, whose numbers at the plate were pretty uninspiring when all things were considered, at least you can point to the other facets of his game and make a case for him being among the elite worthy of baseball's ultimate honor. P.S.- Thanks to Tom Tango for guiding me in devising and testing the 6/4 method. Mike Trout 5, though not retired by the team just yet, will one day hang high above the seats at Citi Field. So yeah, count me alongside OP as someone who doesn't understand this, because this is pretty absurd from where I sit. JAWS has two components, peak and career WAR. Matt Williams. Representatives of the Highland County Women’s Hall of Fame, including 2017 inductee Karen Faust, foreground, speak to the Highland County Board of Commissioners on Wednesday. When David Wright clobbered this HR against Philly in his return from DL in 2015. youtu.be/uTi4Nb... 295. Despite his shortened time in MLB, Wright still has a solid case for Cooperstown. The USEA is a non-profit 501(c)(3), educational organization committed to providing eventing enthusiasts with a competitive level suited to their individual skills. But for now, we can say pretty confidently that Wright does have a great chance of being enshrined in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Compared to his peers has a higher win above replacement then mattingly (by the volume of an mvp season) in those games despite not playing more than 40 games in a season after age 31. Injuries unfortunately almost definitely will keep him out. Baines is a compiler, whereas Wright is the opposite: a peak guy who didn't have the chance to compile. Kingman. USATSI The Mets drafted Wright in 2001 with the 38th overall pick out of Hickory High School in Chesapeake, Virginia. The world is fucked. share. Johan Santana Should Be In Mets Hall Of Fame June 1, 2012. No, injuries derailed his career. Deacon White. Jason Wright, Doug Williams Sit Down With Tuskegee Airman In Honor Of Salute To Service Month MORE OFF THE FIELD NEWS . Career: 242 HR, .296 BA, 970 RBI, 3B, 7xAllStar, 2xGG, Mets 2004-2018, b:R/t:R, born in VA 1982, Captain America In The Community Nominate Your Coach For Washington Football High School Coach Of The Week presented by INOVA Sports Medicine. Wright is not a Hall of Fame caliber player. In 2011, John Franco had his first and only year on the Hall of Fame ballot. Ron Cey. Baines shouldn't have gotten in either. Wright may have to rely on them as well to have a shot. He credits the developmental circuit for kickstarting his career to another level.The AFL honored Wright for his illustrious career, inducting Or at least he shouldn't be. If we’re going to look exclusively at WAR, Wright still had a long way to go before reaching Hall of Fame status. So that he can properly close what was once a promising HoF career. Well I’m here to burst that bubble. Played a more demanding position. Loudoun County High School's 2015 Athletic Hall of Fame class will include two former Raider coaches/administrators and 10 former athletes. August 14, 2020. It's a shame. August 14, 2020. I disagree with their decision because Baines is not a Hall of Fame worthy player. David Wright Is a Hall of Famer. Mariners Moose Tracks, 1/21/20: Hall of Fame, Nolan Arenado, and David Wright New, 217 comments Time to sit back and enjoy a Hall of Fame announcement stress-free. HOF if healthy enough to play into their decline, not hanging it up after their prime because their body couldnt hold up for a decline phase. 36 comments. He absolutely had HOF talent, just not HOF longevity. Members. New York Mets third baseman David Wright was on a clear path to baseball's Hall of Fame before multiple injuries derailed his career. David Wright played significantly less games than mattingly. You read the title, and you may think “he’s just a Mets homer”. Especially because Keith Hernandez has a much better case than mattingly. Keith Hernandez, Gooden, HoJo, Staub. I've been a Mets fan since the early 80s. Injuries were too much to accumulate elite stats. He absolutely had HOF talent, just not HOF longevity. Mattingly has the advantage in RBI (speaks to a good player’s good team). He was a surefire All-Star, borderline MVP player in his prime. Follow him on twitter at @JoeVasilePBP. And then you add on the fact that he was selected over guys like Albert Belle, Will Clark, and Joe Carter and things make even less sense. I have been thinking about this a lot, but I cannot come to a conclusion right now. And the fact that the bulk of his stats came as a painfully slow DH severely hurts the case that "well rounded players" get a boost from their fielding and baserunning even if their offensive stats aren't Hall material. Here's a table I found with some stats, added fWAR and Wright to it for comparison. FRANCHISE HONOREES. One huge thing Baines has that Wright doesn’t, and it put him in the hall, is longevity. Edit-- Kranepool and HoJo are obviously outlandish but you can seriously make a case for the others now that Baines is in. Please extrapolate, because I gotta hear this. Addison Reed Amed Rosario Asdrubal Cabrera Bartolo Colon Brandon Nimmo Carlos Beltran Curtis Granderson Daniel Murphy David Wright Dominic Smith Edgardo Alfonzo Edwin Diaz Hansel Robles IV J.D. Like, wow especially Keith. I am a diehard Yankees fan who loves laughing at the little brother Mets and their misfortunes. You can tell in plate appearances, Wright scores more runs (both in average and per 162 games), mattingly had about 20 more hits (both average and per 162), mattingly edges out Wright in 2bs, while Wright has the advantage in 3b and HR. Home Run Baker Inducted: 1955. The Mets are into him contractually for a long time and — in the present — have a … Even with Mike Piazza‘s recent election to the Hall of Fame, it appears that Wright is the team’s best position player. **For the best user experience, we recommend disabling the Reddit redesign. His plaque will hang right next to Paul Konerko’s... not in Cooperstown. So overall, Wright still has a legitimate shot at the Hall of Fame. 264. No player I can think of loved and cared about the game of baseball like David Wright. I want to know what y'all think. That's based purely on what he did, not on what he could have done if he hadn't gotten hurt, or on my admitted bias against the Mets. After garnering just 4.6% of the vote, he was five percented off of the Hall of Fame ballot. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. And it looks like he won't get the chance to try to do it again. I think he’ll get more support than people expect but it won’t be enough, Sadly no, but he should get some type of mention somewhere in the hall. Wright is a HOF is he has another 2000-3500 PA and is a borderline guy with another 1200-1500 but thr way it stands he really isnt. David Wright Elected To Appalachian League Hall of Fame. Not that those guys are necessarily Hall material either (though I do think that, insufferable asshole or no, Belle has a very strong case), but up against them Baines struggles to compare favorably in multiple categories. I feel that the Mets will definitely retire the no. In light of that, his selection is absolutely mystifying. You know wright sweeps season average and per 162 in stolen bases and sb%, but also walks, obp, slug%, ops, and ops+. He did what he could, for as long as he could. That being said, he isn't far off, especially from some of the older third basemen in the Hall. Unfortunately just continuing to lower the bar "because this person got in" is not going to help this problem. He left a legacy that transcends baseball. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Created Dec 8, … Koosman. Especially Keith. When Carlos Delgado was five percented off the Hall of Fame ballot, there was shock from fans. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, The subreddit for the bat-and-ball sport played between two teams of nine players. - by Ryan Garcia - Leave a Comment. Johan Santana was 10 starts deep into the season as he tried to make the fairly unprecedented step of returning from anterior capsule surgery in his pitching shoulder. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts But if the VC is going to prioritize/reward compilers, that doesn't bode well for Wright. Nonetheless, Wright was a great player and served as the Mets team captain from 2013 through the end of his career in 2018. “Like Tulo,” the Yankees’ veteran outfielder added. America's Pastime. The totals aren’t far apart considering there’s a difference of 200 games. David Wright is undoubtedly one of the greatest Mets of all time, and his No. Going by numbers complied in their 10 best consecutive seasons: Wright was less durable, mattingly edged him by 2 games a season. He won’t make the Hall of Fame, but calling him Hall of very good undersells him imo. Sadly no. Online. **, Press J to jump to the feed. David Wright is not a Baseball Hall-of-Famer. The USEA is a non-profit 501(c)(3), educational organization committed to providing eventing enthusiasts with a competitive level suited to their individual skills.
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